tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post4270714189386691444..comments2023-03-23T17:03:12.246-07:00Comments on The God vs No God Debate: Atheist Fallacy #2 - A Perfect Loving Good Would Not Allow Imperfection, Evil, or SufferingRandy Kirkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07187149342560881341noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post-65315588024951589462014-03-13T06:40:47.334-07:002014-03-13T06:40:47.334-07:00As the first comment said; a truly omnipotent god ...As the first comment said; a truly omnipotent god could have created man with all the characteristics that suffering is meant to instill. Why would an omnipotent and omniscient deity create imperfect objects and then exact his vengeance on them for being as he created (or knew they would become). To date this has not been explained in any reasoned argument to meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post-3093802717418214542012-05-27T21:21:04.058-07:002012-05-27T21:21:04.058-07:00No, the reason there is suffering is because God h...No, the reason there is suffering is because God has to be just. We are sinners and deserve suffering and death. Without suffering, no one would rely on God because everything is goodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post-6152152283027770012011-12-06T13:50:11.385-08:002011-12-06T13:50:11.385-08:00There is evil that does not provide any growth. Ta...There is evil that does not provide any growth. Take a dear in the middle of the woods that no one knows about. It breaks its legs and cant move to get food. It then starves to death. How is this dears suffering (evil) providing any gain for a human?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post-83065372375459488492011-03-11T15:23:12.535-08:002011-03-11T15:23:12.535-08:00These seven reasons all presume a future in which ...These seven reasons all presume a future in which the person can exercise his or her improved character. They imply that the short-term suffering is actually beneficial in the long term. None of these seven reasons are valid for a person who suffers and immediately dies.Tucker Liebermanhttp://www.moralrelativism.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38152004.post-26351827325373058392010-08-02T17:09:05.604-07:002010-08-02T17:09:05.604-07:00A perfect loving god with OMNIPOTENCE would be abl...A perfect loving god with OMNIPOTENCE would be able to simply create us with those characteristics(mentioned in 1-3 and 6-7). A perfect loving god with OMNIPOTENCE would be able to create us in a manner in which we could not feel pain(4) A perfect loving god with OMNIPOTENCE could create us to simply appreciate existence which, without evil, would be entirely good(5).<br /><br />There is no reason for a being that is supposedly perfect and benevolent to allow evil to exist IF said being is omnipotent. If this being is not omnipotent, then there is reason. However, I would see no reason to worship such a non-omnipotent being(and, come to think of it, not much reason to worship one were they).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com